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Dec 12, 2023

In the past, we’ve always talked about Virtual Reality training in the context of skills that are expensive to learn or dangerous to practice. But Lucie Coudret and the team at Cappfinity are using VR for coaching and leadership development.

In this week’s episode of The Mind Tools L&D Podcast, Ross Garner and Owen Ferguson speak with Lucie Coudret, to discuss:

·       The advantages of VR for coaching and soft skill development

·       How to overcome the cost and technical hurdles of providing VR learning experiences

·       How the VR ‘fad’ has continued to evolve and improve, even if it’s not always in the spotlight,

During the conversation, Lucie referenced PwC’s study into the effectiveness of VR for soft skills training.

She also referenced the DICE model (Dangerous, Impossible, Counterproductive, Expensive).

Details of the VR EY Summer Internship, developed by Cappfinity, are on YouTube.

Ross referenced the popularity of Snapchat’s ‘My AI’, which by June of this year had been sent 10 billion messages.

In ‘What I Learned this Week’, Owen recommended Lenny’s Newsletter.

Ross recommended The Rest Is History podcast.

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Connect with our speakers   

If you'd like to share your thoughts on this episode, connect with our speakers:

·       Ross Garner

·       Owen Ferguson

·       Lucie Coudret